How To Play Mariachi Trumpet

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pinklemon91 Regular Member Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 75 Location: SC	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:37 am   Post subject: Mariachi style? i have a solo in my marching band this year and i was told to play it mariachi style. what is the best way to learn to do this and what are some key elements in doing this? is there anyone i can listen to that plays this way? _________________ Ashley
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 613	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:47 am   Post subject: Ultra staccato tongue attacts, lots of vibrato (very wide and fast). Just searche youtube wtih "mariachi" that would bring a lot of material to listen. LA _________________ Stomvi Artist/Clinician Bb, Titan, ML and VRII lightweight C, Titan, L Eb/D, Titan, M Picc., Titan, M Flugelhorn, Titan
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 613	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:52 am   Post subject: lmaraya wrote: Ultra staccato tongue attacts, lots of vibrato (very wide and fast). Just searche youtube wtih "mariachi" that would bring a lot of material to listen. LA Link _________________ Stomvi Artist/Clinician Bb, Titan, ML and VRII lightweight C, Titan, L Eb/D, Titan, M Picc., Titan, M Flugelhorn, Titan
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Smokin Joe Heavyweight Member Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 585 Location: Somerset, Mass.	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:12 pm   Post subject: Lousy tone and lots of vibrato. Joe
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ConnArtist Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 2782 Location: La-la Land (corner of 13th and 13th)	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:36 pm   Post subject: Wen I think mariachi, I think staccato on the short notes, and legato volume swells on the longer notes... Dut-dut-dut-dut-daaaAAAAAaaa triplet-DAH dut-dut triplet-doooOOOOooo Seriously... go out to a Mexican restaurant, and just listen to the background music they have playing... seriously. Also... pull your first slide out about 1/3 inch and use lots of vibrato. Of course the cold weather and playing while stomping your feet will achieve a similar lousy intonation and vibrato. _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell 1971 Coprion Director cornet c. 1955? Besson 10-10 c. 1960s? Steenhuysen Flugel 1986 Bach Strad 37 ML
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NMex Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 567 Location: New Mexico	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:05 pm   Post subject: Smokin Joe wrote: Lousy tone and lots of vibrato. Joe Come on now. Just as in any style of music there are those that do it well and those that are working on it. Here's a good example of some truly good mariachi trumpet playing by some of the premier players in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-vExGNbSk&feature=related Regards, NMex _________________ Brasspire 923 LT ACB TA-2 Last edited by NMex on Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 613	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:31 pm   Post subject: You are right! very nice!! NMex wrote: Smokin Joe wrote: Lousy tone and lots of vibrato. Joe Come on now. Just as in any style of music there are those that do it well and those that are working on it. Here's a good example of some truly good mariachi trumpet playing by some of the premiere players in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-vExGNbSk&feature=related Regards, NMex _________________ Stomvi Artist/Clinician Bb, Titan, ML and VRII lightweight C, Titan, L Eb/D, Titan, M Picc., Titan, M Flugelhorn, Titan
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 5028 Location: Richfield, Minnesota	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:38 pm   Post subject: Incredible music! Thanks for posting it.
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Smokin Joe Heavyweight Member Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 585 Location: Somerset, Mass.	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:43 pm   Post subject: It was just a joke guys hence the smiley face at the end of my comment. Joe P.S. by the way, who is the premier mariachi trumpeter today?
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NMex Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 567 Location: New Mexico	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:15 pm   Post subject: That's just like asking who the top classical or jazz player is. Certainly, Mariachi Sol, Mariachi Vargas, Mariach Cobre are all among the better known mariachi groups. There are many, many other outstanding groups. I just did a search on YouTube earlier. Listen to all of the other videos from Mariachi Sol that show the recording session. Lots of good playing and singing there. My teacher makes me sing and strongly believes that some of the best trumpet players are good singers too. Regards, NMex _________________ Brasspire 923 LT ACB TA-2
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ConnArtist Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 2782 Location: La-la Land (corner of 13th and 13th)	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:58 pm   Post subject: NMex, your teacher is partly right. I would say ALL top instrumentalists are ALL good singers. I don't see how you can separate the two. A good ear will make good music no matter what the source of resonance is. _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell 1971 Coprion Director cornet c. 1955? Besson 10-10 c. 1960s? Steenhuysen Flugel 1986 Bach Strad 37 ML
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Smokin Joe Heavyweight Member Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 585 Location: Somerset, Mass.	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:00 pm   Post subject: I see members of TH discuss many classical or jazz greats every day on this site and we all know who those trumpet players are. Just don't see anyone discussing mariachi trumpeters. I am sure there are great ones out there but I have never heard of any mariachi trumpet vituoso. If you can name me perhaps the top 3 I would love to google them and youtube them. Joe
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Uniquetrumpet Veteran Member Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 182 Location: NYC	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:14 pm   Post subject: Thanks some real deal trumpet playing! I wish there was some more written music available for the Mariachi trumpet style. I purchased a music minus one type product from www.latintrumpet.com and it was pretty good......but difficult to play along with. There was someone selling like 100 tunes for $15 on Ebay......I picked those up to. However to phrase this music correctly you need to play along with someone familiar with the style.......and the Mariachi guys are keeping it to themselves........
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NMex Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 567 Location: New Mexico	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:51 pm   Post subject: Uniquetrumpet wrote: I wish there was some more written music available for the Mariachi trumpet style. How's this. Just a few tunes, I know but some nice charts! http://www.virtuosomariachi.com/pdf.html Regards, NMex _________________ Brasspire 923 LT ACB TA-2
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mark936 Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Apr 2002 Posts: 1254 Location: Riverside,Calyfornia	Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:01 pm   Post subject: how about play on top of the beat or ahead of the beat, all vibrato is lip vibrato not hands and slightly on the sharp side rather than flat. here's a good link with music. http://tombstonetrumpetcompany.com/ http://tombstonetrumpetcompany.com/El%20Dorado.htm http://tombstonetrumpetcompany.com/Conquistador.htm
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Uniquetrumpet Veteran Member Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 182 Location: NYC	Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:10 am   Post subject: Thanks NMEX! Those are some nice charts.....just printed them out. I read read a bit about Jeff Nevin.........looks like he is doing a great job of organizing Mariachi material.
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NMex Heavyweight Member Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 567 Location: New Mexico	Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:46 pm   Post subject: ConnArtist wrote: NMex, your teacher is partly right. I would say ALL top instrumentalists are ALL good singers. I wouldn't exclude other instrumentalists either, we're just talking trumpet here right? Smokin Joe wrote: I see members of TH discuss many classical or jazz greats every day on this site and we all know who those trumpet players are. Just don't see anyone discussing mariachi trumpeters. I am sure there are great ones out there but I have never heard of any mariachi trumpet vituoso. If you can name me perhaps the top 3 I would love to google them and youtube them. Joe Joe, Jose Hernandez is the leader of Mariachi Sol and is perhaps one of the better know mariachi players. http://kanstul.com/pages/instruments/mariachi.html The Tombstone site also refers to a couple of great players. and don't forget that Mendez played mariachi as a boy. You can hear the mariachi in his technique. Just google "mariachi" and see what you find. Regards, NMex _________________ Brasspire 923 LT ACB TA-2
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 613	Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:17 pm   Post subject: Smokin Joe wrote: I see members of TH discuss many classical or jazz greats every day on this site and we all know who those trumpet players are. Just don't see anyone discussing mariachi trumpeters. I am sure there are great ones out there but I have never heard of any mariachi trumpet vituoso. If you can name me perhaps the top 3 I would love to google them and youtube them. Joe Here is one, his name is Isidro Martinez: Link Link Link Link This one is of a very famous Mexican Singer, there is a trumpet solo in the middle: Link As stated earlier there are great players in any style of music, and one has to be hummble because there are great players that are "hidden" and no much people know about them just because they don�t care!! LA _________________ Stomvi Artist/Clinician Bb, Titan, ML and VRII lightweight C, Titan, L Eb/D, Titan, M Picc., Titan, M Flugelhorn, Titan
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Beto Regular Member Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Posts: 67 Location: San Antonio	Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:05 am   Post subject: Imaraya, thanks for posting that Alejandro Fernandez video..... My wife has that Live Cd....... now I know who is behind that trumpet solo I keep rewinding..... _________________ Jazz For Christ
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1408 Location: Vancouver, BC	Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:16 am   Post subject: NMex wrote: Smokin Joe wrote: Lousy tone and lots of vibrato. Joe Come on now. Just as in any style of music there are those that do it well and those that are working on it. Here's a good example of some truly good mariachi trumpet playing by some of the premier players in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-vExGNbSk&feature=related Regards, NMex Thanks for the link. Absolutely lovely. This oughtta give the Mariachi detractors something to chew on. _________________ 1948 Olds Super Recording Bach 7C mp Take The Double Buzz Survey: https://goo.gl/JUuaNn Survey Results: https://goo.gl/UM7Yjd The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com
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How To Play Mariachi Trumpet

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